An Artemis podcast · Season 1

Defense at the Frontier

Attackers and defenders now use the same frontier AI models. What separates them is how they use them. Artemis co-founders Shachar Hirshberg and Dan Shiebler talk with CISOs, security leaders and investors about the calls they are making today: which work they hand to AI, where they still want a person to decide, and what security operations will look like next.

Season 1

Episode 2 · 32 min

Rails, not guardrails, and the end of eyes on glass

Shachar is joined by Stephen Ward, partner at Brightmind and former CISO at Home Depot and TIAA, on why cyber has a training problem rather than a talent problem, and why neither operators nor vendors are moving fast enough.

Coming soon · Tue, Nov 3

Episode 3 · 30 min

Signal manufacturing, and why most companies don’t need a red team

Dan is joined by Swathi Joshi, SVP of Cyber Defense at TransUnion, on bringing calm to chaos in an incident and why detection has to be a production-grade system that manufactures signal.

Coming soon · Tue, Nov 10

Episode 4 · 38 min

Second-generation AI security and the hedge-fund SOC

Dan is joined by Andy Triedman and Tomasz Tunguz of Theory Ventures, investors in Artemis' Series A, on why attack and defense are now the same work and the SOC of 2030 runs like a hedge fund.

Coming soon · Tue, Nov 17

Episode 5 · 20 min

Accepting more risk to move faster, and when to pump the brakes on AI

Dan is joined by Marzena Fuller, CISO at Cognite, on why moving fast is non-negotiable, why leadership has to accept more risk than five years ago, and the three places she still slows down.

Coming soon · Tue, Nov 24

Episode 6 · 21 min

Not all ships rise, and why an API key isn’t AI-native

Dan is joined by Gur Talpaz, Brightmind co-founder and Artemis board member, recorded at Black Hat, on what CrowdStrike got right, and why the AI tide will produce outsized losers as well as winners.

Coming soon · Tue, Dec 1

Episode 7 · 33 min

Securing 50 vibe-coded apps, and one leader for security and AI

Dan is joined by Michael Timineri, VP of Corporate Engineering and Security at Checkr, on what happened when non-engineers vibe-coded 50 apps in their first week, and the paved path every internal app now starts from.

Coming soon · Tue, Dec 8

Episode 8 · 28 min

Why AI confidence scores lie, and how three models earned trust

Dan is joined by Pankaj Moolrajani, who leads security at Motive, on the AI triage that reported 80% confidence while being right 70% of the time, and the three-model peer review that replaced it.

Coming soon · Tue, Dec 15